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Title: Copyrights Infingement?
Description: I have a doubt


Airshadow - August 24, 2006 01:55 AM (GMT)
Well


I have the ide a to add some lyrics of songs, that I really like to, to my fics. But is taht a copyright infringement? how could I do it?

Penny Dreadful - August 24, 2006 02:06 AM (GMT)
That's called a "songfic". Generally writers add the lyrics in intervals, in italics. Just credit the artist in and disclaimer you might write.

Airshadow - August 24, 2006 02:46 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Penny Dreadful @ Aug 23 2006, 09:06 PM)
That's called a "songfic". Generally writers add the lyrics in intervals, in italics. Just credit the artist in and disclaimer you might write.

what doy ou mean in intervals?

Sarah Frost - August 24, 2006 04:21 AM (GMT)
Line of Lyrics

Paragraph of story text

Line of Lyrics

Paragraph of story text

Line of Lyrics

Paragraph of story text

Line of Lyrics

Paragraph of story text

...Etc. I'm not a particular fan of this method; I prefer just to see the most salient portion of the lyrics prefaced above the story. It's rarely necessarily to quote an entire song, and most Earth songs wouldn't make it into the DB world anyway. Songfics have a pretty poor reputation, but with regard to copyright I've never heard of an actual prosecution taking place when someone's quoted a song and credited it (though FF.Net did ban songfics because of this possibility).

Airshadow - August 24, 2006 04:46 AM (GMT)
OUCH :faint:

so

shouldn't I do it?

it isnt esnciel for the fic but I think that will add it a nice touch and just be a line or two

Sarah Frost - August 24, 2006 04:49 AM (GMT)
Sure, if you think it's a nice touch. One or two lines to make a point sounds better to me than copy-and-pasting an entire song to scroll through. I'd hope you'd get away with posting one or two credited lines on FF.Net, but they can be very arbitrary about how they ban people. Here, of course, as far as I know the admin won't mind as long as you give credit.

Airshadow - August 24, 2006 04:52 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Sarah Frost @ Aug 23 2006, 11:49 PM)
Sure, if you think it's a nice touch. One or two lines to make a point sounds better to me than copy-and-pasting an entire song to scroll through. I'd hope you'd get away with posting one or two credited lines on FF.Net, but they can be very arbitrary about how they ban people. Here, of course, as far as I know the admin won't mind as long as you give credit.

Perhaps I should ask first, but at whom?

Sarah Frost - August 24, 2006 05:49 AM (GMT)
...Here, as in the DB forum, you can quote what you like in a fic provided you give credit and the admin doesn't tell you off for it, which she hasn't done and I suspect won't do. On FF.Net, I believe you can go to your user profile for information on getting help, but you might not get a reply if you email someone there.

Penny Dreadful - August 24, 2006 01:31 PM (GMT)
Putting a few lines of lyrics before your story isn't generally considered making it a songfic. It's more, just...leaving a quote there...That's done in normal novels. Hell, in Wratheu (sp? pretty popular fantasy series) I believe the author even quoted Christian Death. I'd have to drag out the novel itself to double check, but I'm pretty positive. I quote lyrics or poetry before a lot of my fics. I even did that in my DB fic, Vanitas. I quoted Jill Tracy's "Pulling Your Insides Out". Gorgeous, smokey, cabaret-style song. Anyway, if you'd rather do that, just find the lyrics and do this:

Blah blah blah blah,
blah blah blah blah.
blah blah,
blahblah blah,
blah blah blah blah.

- Artist "Name of song"


I don't stress about FF.net...creative nazis is what they are...I've been suspended about four times now. :dance: Things like "nec-romance" seem to scare the young uns'.

Sarah Frost - August 24, 2006 07:35 PM (GMT)
QUOTE
Putting a few lines of lyrics before your story isn't generally considered making it a songfic.


You're right, and pro authors do make use of short quotes like that. Unfortunately, I've heard of people being banned for things like that on FF.Net, including a Lyrics Wheel challenge (which in that case was more like "quote a segment with credit and write"). FF.Net's banning and suspension are...complicated things.

Penny Dreadful - August 24, 2006 08:51 PM (GMT)
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FF.Net's banning and suspension are...complicated things.


Or, you know, random and idiotic ones. :unsure: FF.net and I have a love/hate relationship. I joined a long while back (my user number is in the 8000's). Back in the day they were a lot more lenient. Once they took away NC-17, it all went down-hill. They would randomly apply rules and remove my fics without warning before suspending me. I take most of my fics down on my own these days.




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