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Title: Dragons
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Thrakos - May 20, 2006 01:11 AM (GMT)
My question is were Dragons real or some myth? I know you probable will think I’m crazy for asking this, but my argument is that most every culture had their interpretation of the Dragon. Though these cultures didn't even have contact with one another but yet they all had one. For one I don't think it’s a coincident because there are the Western Dragon, and the Eastern Dragon; two completely different types and two culturally different views.

There is the possibility that there were Dinosaurs that survived the Great Extinction and lead to it living along side humans. There fore creating the myth of the Dragon. If there was any discovery made to prove they did exist it would be the greatest find since King Tut’s tomb.

What do you think do you think they were real or just a myth?

phsycopathicdragon - May 20, 2006 03:19 AM (GMT)
I believe that the myth of dragons arose from when the people back then discovered accidentaly some dinosaur fosils, and made their own stories about what they thought

hyperpsychomaniac - May 20, 2006 10:27 AM (GMT)
No reason why they couldn't be real. Dinosaurs sound like a good bet to me.

power of dragon - May 21, 2006 02:19 AM (GMT)
dinasours weren't always called by the word/term dinasours. (I think, and i'm probably way of in the dates but in i think it was 1880's) they called dinosours dragons. This was a while ago when i heard this so i'm probably way off saying the wrong era. But dinasours used to be named dragons.

there is also rainforest that hasn't been totally looked thorugh yet. Plus Natives(again long time since i heard this) described creatures that sounded like dragons,(more of the dinasour type though)

Also ( i know not all are religous) the bible talked about fire breathing creatures, and i think that meant dragons.


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I know you probable will think I’m crazy for asking this, but my argument is that most every culture had their interpretation of the Dragon. Though these cultures didn't even have contact with one another but yet they all had one. For one I don't think it’s a coincident because there are the Western Dragon, and the Eastern Dragon; two completely different types and two culturally different views.

I agree. Animals can have the same origin, and yet have different types of subspecies.

I think dragons did exist, and might still. Now what the dragons would look like would probably vary
;)

Kay Yasha - May 21, 2006 02:46 AM (GMT)
There's really no proof to say they did exist, but nor have people said that they could NEVER exist. The winged dragons of the Western culture probably didn't exsist, because it's anatomy is just not right for flying.

SilverDragon - May 21, 2006 03:21 AM (GMT)
I personally believe that dragons did exist at one point, and probably still do, but are REALLY good at hiding themselves. Like that photo of Chinese dragons taken over Tibet.

Kay, you said that Western dragons could not possibly exist because they were too big to fly, but some theories on them link their fire-breathing capabilities to their flight. They might have used helium (which is flammable) to breathe fire. Also, helium is lighter than air, giving a dragon decreased weight.

I think there was a bit of that, plus some magic in there, too. After all, if Chinese dragons are wingless, how do THEY fly?

LightningFlash - May 21, 2006 03:48 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kay Yasha @ May 21 2006, 12:46 PM)
The winged dragons of the Western culture probably didn't exsist, because it's anatomy is just not right for flying.

Did you know that bumble bees defy the laws of aerodynamics?

The Furox - May 21, 2006 08:00 AM (GMT)
I tend to think the widespread nature of the dragon myth is due to it being passed on from one culture to another over time. This fellow has a theory of how sightings of comets may have started myths of flying serpents in places where the dragon myth appears to have sprung up independently. I doubt this theory could ever be proven, but it's a fun idea. :)

QUOTE (LightningFlash @ May 20 2006, 08:48 PM)
Did you know that bumble bees defy the laws of aerodynamics?

That's actually been figured out. People didn't understand how bumble bees could fly because they made the false assumption that they beat their wings like a bird does. In reality, their wings move in a figure-eight like pattern and also twist along the horizontal axis. That creates a tiny vortex which generates just enough extra lift to allow them to fly and hover. I saw this on the Discovery Channel once and there's also a brief article here. Pretty cool stuff. :)

SilverDragon - May 21, 2006 09:29 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (The Furox @ May 21 2006, 06:00 PM)
I tend to think the widespread nature of the dragon myth is due to it being passed on from one culture to another over time.  This fellow has a theory of how sightings of comets may have started myths of flying serpents in places where the dragon myth appears to have sprung up independently. I doubt this theory could ever be proven, but it's a fun idea. :)

The theory seems quite a bit dodgy to me. I mean, a comet would just burn up and melt in the atmosphere. If it survived, it would be an asteroid. To cause destruction on the scale he said in the theory, it would have to be pretty darn big. And we'd all be dead as a result, for a start.

Something else.

The Furox - May 21, 2006 05:10 PM (GMT)
Yeah, I think an actual comet impact is a pretty low probability event. Not enough people would have been close enough to see it. However, a very large number of people all around the world would have sighted passing comets at one time or another. With no city lights and no air pollution, everyone could have gotten a really good view whenever Hailey's comet or another one came by. A comet and its tail might look like a flying serpent to some, and a wingless one at that, which lines up with the Chinese dragon design. Who knows. :)

Brightclaw - May 21, 2006 07:39 PM (GMT)
I personally think that dragons do exist. And have been existing for millions of years.

About the flying question. Dragons may have hollow bones, like birds, so they are lighter and the helium thing Silverdragon said would also help.

Most dragons would probably live in places humans can't survve. Like in the mountains or something.
But if they are repillian how would they survive the cold? Well dragons bask like lizards do, to warm up their blood. And their large wings, well the european ones anyway, could be used to soak up more sunlight.
So I think dragons could still be alive. :plot:

Khatah - May 22, 2006 08:59 AM (GMT)
Ok i was watching a movie the other day and it has some information on dragons. In the movie the proffessor says that the dragon that they cloned was warm blooded what seperated them from the dinosaurs and it also made them survive what made the dinosaurs extinct.

The movie is

Dragon Fighter

If anybody wants to watch it and see.

Salazaar - November 22, 2006 03:00 AM (GMT)
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I personally think that dragons do exist. And have been existing for millions of years.

About the flying question. Dragons may have hollow bones, like birds, so they are lighter and the helium thing Silverdragon said would also help.

Most dragons would probably live in places humans can't survve. Like in the mountains or something.
But if they are repillian how would they survive the cold? Well dragons bask like lizards do, to warm up their blood. And their large wings, well the european ones anyway, could be used to soak up more sunlight.
So I think dragons could still be alive. 


I so think Dragons are alive today, and I know I might come off as weird, but I also believe in the Loch Ness Monster!
People are soooooo arrogant to think that we've scowered every inch of this little blue planet,..............and who's to say Dragons aren't on a different planet or something. (I know I'm sounding really weird!!) Or they could be on living amoung us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I read a book about Dragons evolving, and using Magic to blend in and feed off of the depressing feelings they created in people!
They hated people!! They hated the fact that they needed people to survive!
They had cloaking magic, to appear as a normal, if not slightly deformed or hunched over human being, usually very wealthy, and lots a' henchmen to do the art trading, money stealing, dirtywork for them! It was sooooooooo cooooooool!!!

Not Being slaves to Dragons and helping them by the horrible things they did and or horrid feelings to them making them stronger, just the Dragons still being here,
and being ahead of people, and having years worth of Strenghth, power, magic, wisdom, vanity, wickedness, and Expierence more then we do!!!!!!!!

In the end the Boy, his dad (Who are both descendants of the legendary St. George, and could see through the Dragon's cloaking magic, that's what made them a threat to the scaley beasts! (that's not what I think about Dragons in general, that was just how they were portrayed in the book)) and the last magician, and I mean magician!! Like not little spell binding illusionist, but actual
magical being, defeated the Dragons because the dragons didn't trust eachother, (and that was their downfall, and they mostly killed eachother) and then they killed
all of the Dragons who didn't kill each other, and then they lived happily ever after.......

It was an Awsome Book!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's called "The Saint of Dragons"

HANAMORE - March 29, 2007 06:32 AM (GMT)
I know I should'nt be reviving old message boards, but i couldn't resist myself.
I think that dragons do exist. Has anyone seen that movie that was aired a few years ago on discovery channel? It's called Dragons: A Fantasy Made Real It shows you what would happen if a dragon corpse was really found, and they give you some scientific evidence about dragons real existence. I have it on DVD (not that anyone really cares.), it's kinda corny, but good, nonetheless.

Shining-Dragon - March 29, 2007 07:44 PM (GMT)
Dragons did and still do exsist!

in Dragonheart When Draco died, he turned to dust. That could be why there are no dragon fossils.
and in the fiilm 'the last unicorn' people only saw the unicorn as a white horse cause they didn't believe

HANAMORE - March 29, 2007 10:25 PM (GMT)
Then what are people who don't believe in dragons seeing? Dogs, cats, other humans...?

Allye - March 29, 2007 10:39 PM (GMT)
I have the DVD tooit made me think they where real but sadly the don't
and bedides that there all just movies....animated Drac movies :D also
Salazaar is right in a way they exsised I mean look at Comodo Dragons and Crocs
and lizerds they all are like dragons ^^

dolphinliss - March 29, 2007 10:49 PM (GMT)
dragons did and still exist. hello, komodo DRAGON. and how do you think people first got the idea of a dragon? long ago someone actually saw one and the stories have been pasted down and eventually turned into myth. idiots

HANAMORE - March 30, 2007 05:02 AM (GMT)
I agree, somewhat. Thrakos has a point. Tons of different cultures have stories and paintings(etc...) of dragons, but none of them knew the other existed. I dare any non-believers to explain that!

The Hydrag - April 4, 2007 12:41 AM (GMT)
Dang right Dragons exist!!! Not to sound like a "freak" or any thing but Im convinced Iv seen one.It was about 6 to 8 feet long and yes it did have wings but the only funky part about it was that I was looking right where it was and it kind of faded into sight and looked at me and faded away. Call me crazy or any thing else but I was NOT dreaming because it was during a time when I had to be fully awake. Also I have never taken any drug of any sort ever. So I wasnt hallucinating. Also I was well hydrated so it wasnt from lack of water. It was real. That would also explain why most people dont see them. The dragons just dont let them see them. Im just trying to find a way to encounter one fore more than a few seconds.
Thats good enough for me and I hope its good enough for you.:-)

dolphinliss - April 4, 2007 03:41 AM (GMT)
your not crazy. a couple of years ago i was sitting in my kitchen eating and i was looking forward out towards the window. i saw a huge at least 6ft tall flash of white go by super fast. this was before DB was created and i was young and didn't know what it was so i never said anything to anyone till now. i think it was a dragons. mabye a really fast sky class dragon? it looked like a dragon, but it went by so fast it was hard to tell. you have all the right to call me crazy :D

The Hydrag - April 6, 2007 02:17 AM (GMT)
Actually no one has the right to call us crazy. Scientists have given more than sufficient eveidence that its completly possible for dragons to have and still exist. Also when it comes to fire breathing all it would take is acess to titanium ore and a special natural gass that could be produced by an animal and VIOLA huge gouts of flame exiting an animals mouth. For all you sceptics out there look at "fire breathing" in the insect world. The Bombadier beetle, it sprays a super heated fluid on attackers and the two components are naturally created within the beatle!
Thats the advantage of being a super nerd you know this useless stuff/factoids:-)

Elushun - April 22, 2007 07:30 PM (GMT)
There was a History Channel special called Quest for Dragons that offered what I believe to be the most plausible explanation for the prevalance of dragon myths. It basically says that the three primary predators of early man were big cats, carniverous birds, and snakes. The images of these predators were hard-wired into the evolutionary memories of those that survived their attacks. Eventually the images blended together to form a dragon. They get their claws, protrouding face, fangs, slitted pupils, and deadly breath attacks (carniverous cats scavenging for rotten meat developed some rank breath), among other things from cats. Wings and talons and such from birds, and scales, tail, long neck, from snakes.

Renesh - May 2, 2007 01:00 AM (GMT)
I have a theory regarding western dragons. Whether they existed or not we probably will never know, but personally I think they did. I was thinking about how their wings are too small for them to fly and stuff and it occured to me: What if they flew while they were young, as a way to help them survive, but their wings stopped growing after a certain age, because they didn't need to fly anymore? The body would keep on growing, but if they wings didn't then they would end up way too small for flight. Thus you have big, bulky, heavy, armored dragons with little wings that wouldn't let them fly. Just like all the images of western dragons!

Sai - May 15, 2007 11:18 PM (GMT)
I have recently seen a film with a friend. Poving let me repeat PROVING THE EXSISTANCE OF DRAGONS :dance: . Now I believe it. I forgot the name actualy I never knew the name, but it showed and talked about a group of scienctist decovering two corspes of once alive and breathing dragons. :mellow:

And I belive that Dragons still do exsist, but are in hiding in fear of humans getting rid of them once and for all. :unsure:

BlueBooster - May 17, 2007 04:33 PM (GMT)
well you never know there's a lot of things we haven't discovered in the world yet even the duck billed platapus was seen as a myth when they found out it was real :P

Elushun - May 17, 2007 07:06 PM (GMT)
Yeah, it kind of makes me think of the old trick question:

What was the tallest mountain in the world before Mount Everest was discovered?

It was still Mt. Everest, we just didn't know yet.

Renesh - May 18, 2007 01:17 AM (GMT)
Actually, K2 is now taller than Mt. Everest. XD By a few feet, but it is still taller.

The Hydrag - May 19, 2007 05:40 AM (GMT)
Glad to see that so many people besides me believe that they do exist. But I do have a question for everyone here. Have any of you besides me and dolphinliss ever actually seen one?
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I have recently seen a film with a friend. Poving let me repeat PROVING THE EXSISTANCE OF DRAGONS  . Now I believe it. I forgot the name actualy I never knew the name, but it showed and talked about a group of scienctist decovering two corspes of once alive and breathing dragons.
I would love to find out what that show or movie was called.
I think that one of the biggest "Coincidences" that helps show that dragons are real is that every culture to the best of my knowledge has some ledgend talking about encounters with dragons. There is even a jade sclpture found in a valley in china that is over 4600 years old. Coincidence? I dont think so......

Elushun - May 19, 2007 03:30 PM (GMT)
The film that Sai is referring to was and Animal Planet special called Dragons, a Fantasy Made Real. It was entirely fictional, but framed as a documentary. The first thing that Patrick Stewart said was "But if it [the discovery of a dragon] did happen, what would it look like?" Sorry, no truth there. You just missed the part where he said it was fictional. Heh, this kind of reminds me of Orson Welles' War of the Worlds if you broadcast it, people will believe anything.

And Hydrag, it isn't a coincidence, even though a coincidence would be far more likely than the actual exsistance of dragons. As I explained in an earlier post, dragon myths are a result of evolutionary memories back from when humans were still only in Africa. Humanity branched out, but still retained their genetic memories. When writing developed and recorded history began, the images and stories of dragons seemed to spring up from nowhere, giving the illusion that they are (Or were) real.

The Hydrag - May 19, 2007 03:40 PM (GMT)
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giving the illusion that they are (Or were) real.

Woe be unto those of you whom belive dragons are naught but a legend.:-)

Elushun - May 19, 2007 05:19 PM (GMT)
If dragons have any wrath to bring upon me, that will prove to me that they are real. Seeing as I have yet to encur any bloody retribution on their behalf, I stand by my original conclusion.

*Gets dismembered by pissed off imaginary dragons.*

black and gold dragon - June 7, 2007 06:56 PM (GMT)
do not feel bad i am possibly more crazy than you. i beleive that dragons exist to this day. there are just hiding from us. no clue why. <_<

Arthapenn - July 24, 2008 10:34 AM (GMT)
I believe dragons were real. They died out a long ago. If there are still dragons living, what would we do with them? Would we tame them, as in Dragon Booster? What would we feed them on?




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