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How about this: One group started in 1981 with 13 people and peaked at 200 attendees. Now it is rapidly shrinking and in debt. Another started in 1991 with about 20 people and now they have over 1500 members and no debt. Could it be that one group trusts the Holy Spirit to lead them while the other uses manipulation?