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Title: More Info on GTA4
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deep:cover - April 11, 2007 04:00 PM (GMT)
On GTA4.net, they've read the preview in the magazine "Game Informer" and made a summary of all the things we haven't heard about yet.

Here it is:

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Full Summary of the Preview

    * The protagonist's name is Niko Bellic - an Eastern European immigrant who has come to Liberty City to live the "American Dream." The game is set in Liberty City in 2007, but it is bigger than the Liberty City we saw in GTA III.

    * The GTA 4 equivalent of the Statue of Liberty is called the Statue of Happiness, and DUMBO (Down Under the Manhattan Bridge Overpass) is known as BOABO (Beneath the Offramp of the Algonquin Bridge Overpass).

      Game Informer
    * In Grand Theft Auto IV, Rockstar have recreated 4 of the 5 boroughs in New York, as well as part of New Jersey. Broker is the GTA IV equivalent of Brooklyn, Manhattan is now called Algonquin, Queens is now Dukes, the Bronx is Bohan, and New Jersey is Alderney. The map is smaller than San Andreas, but considerably more detailed. No countryside or desert, we are led to believe.

    * Pedestrians are far more realistic in GTAIV than in previous GTA games - they sit on benches, smoke cigarettes, read books and generally act like any real pedestrian would in the middle of a street.

    * The screenshots in the preview are not representative of the final quality of the graphics, Rockstar insist. The game will only look better as the release draws closer..

    * Niko was persuaded to move to Liberty City by his cousin Roman, who claimed to be living a wonderful life there with two beautiful women, fifteen sports cars, and lots of money etc, but he was infact telling a lie in order to hide his own failures. Roman is the only person you know in Liberty City at the beginning of the game, and he becomes one of your major connections at the start. Niko is a tough character whereas Roman is friendly. Roman is heavily in debt and a lot of people are after him - he needs Niko's support. They are constantly bickering.

    * The demo (which was played on Xbox 360) begins with Bellic standing inside of the taxi depot, which Roman operates in the borough of Broker in a converted industrial garage. Roman works at a cluttered desk in a shabby environment, and at this point the graphical improvements are extremely evident. Bellic walks to a brownstone house in Broker, where he pushes open the door and pulls out a pistol. The living room however, is not occupied. He then moves onto the kitchen, which he also finds to be empty. He pushes his way through the back door and smashes the window of a red four-door car using his elbow. The broken glass falls onto the street and onto the seat of the car, as Bellic unlocks it from the inside. He hotwires the car and sets off to his next destination. The camera angle behind the car is closer to the vehicle than in previous GTA titles, which enables more detail on the car to be seen. After selecting a radio station, Bellic navigates to a section of the BOABO arriving at a dockside with a terrific view of the city skyline. Pigeons can be heard in the sky, and waves can be heard rustling in the water. Bellic then pulls out his cellphone which has options for Phonebook, Messages, Organizer and Camera on it's LCD screen. He selects Phonebook, and he is then presented with another set of options: City Contact, Docks Friend, and Cab Contact. After a brief conversation he informs the reciever to meet him at the docks.

    * As Bellic walks, you can feel the weight behind each step he makes. Variations in the terrain cause realistic changes in the walking animation. The physics have also improved and character movements are more realistic.

    * In previous GTA games you were like a slave because you had to constantly take orders from people when doing missions. There is still an element of that in Grand Theft Auto 4, but you can also choose how you want to spend your time, for example "I want to hang out with him and her. I want to hang out with this guy because he always has fun things to do." Call him up and maybe you can hang with him. Maybe he'll answer. You have a lot of choice over what you want to do.

    * In GTA 4, Rockstar is giving its players more freedom, more choice, and more sense of control over their destiny - the structure of GTA4's storyline is quite different to it's predecessors as it can be told in a number of different ways. You can talk to people in person, by cell phones, and there are a bunch of other ways of giving the player information. In general it's a different experience, with new ways of interacting with the characters and the game world.

    * Rockstar consulted crime experts and ex-policemen when making the game, and they learned that being a criminal is a lot harder these days than it was during the 80s and 90s (for example) and they have tried to reflect this in the game. This means you can expect to see a lot of people getting arrested - the police are a heavy presence in Liberty City.

    * There are no planes in GTA IV because there is only one city, and Rockstar want the game to seem realistic. That means there will be no rollerblades, no unicycles, probably no jetpacks and indeed no planes. Rockstar are giving choice and variety which feels right for the character. However there will be motorbikes.

    * Rockstar North is approaching the recruitment of voice actors in a different way. This means that we will probably hear less familiar voices in GTA 4, as R* are looking for voices which suit the attitude of the characters, and are not just looking for big names. A similar approach is being done with the soundtrack - Rockstar are looking for great music which works with the 2007 Liberty City.

    * After an initial load sequence, the game will never load again. Not even during exterior-interior transitions (and vice versa).

    * Both versions of the game (Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3) will likely be identical, but the Xbox 360 version will have exclusive downloadable episodic [sizeable] content. Rockstar have now spent over 3 years developing the game, and Dan Houser compares the leap from GTA III to GTA IV, to the leap from GTA to GTA III.

    * GTA IV will have multiplayer, but it's not going to be a massively multiplayer online game, says Dan Houser. They are trying to make something that is interesting, fun, progressive and which goes along nicely with the single-player game.

We'd like to express our thanks to demologik for providing all of this information on our forums. Discuss the contents of the preview at our forums and remember to digg this!



All thanks to "demologik" for providing the info and GTA4.net for hosting it on their site.

Vii - April 11, 2007 04:34 PM (GMT)
Sounds brilliant.
Dont like the fact that there wont be any crazy vehicles.

Magical Trevor - April 11, 2007 04:40 PM (GMT)
anybody want the torrent for magazine scans?

deep:cover - April 11, 2007 04:48 PM (GMT)
One thing i noticed is that those people who say "I'm buying a PS3 so I can get the best experience from GTA4", it looks like you'll be wrong.

It says both versions will be near identical, except the 360 version will contain exclusive content...

Vii - April 11, 2007 05:11 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (deep:cover @ Apr 11 2007, 04:48 PM)
One thing i noticed is that those people who say "I'm buying a PS3 so I can get the best experience from GTA4", it looks like you'll be wrong.

It says both versions will be near identical, except the 360 version will contain exclusive content...

Wrong.
Everyone admits that the playstation version will be better. For the fact that its got more power. So faster loading times, smoother gameplay.
Rumor goes, the 360 version is a scaled down version of the ps3 one.
360 used DVD, SA almost filled the limit of a dvd. So this game isnt going to be less then 10 gigs, is it now?

I see ps3 getting a full 20gb version. And i'm sure of better downloadable content.

Joshyboy - April 11, 2007 06:13 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Vii @ Apr 11 2007, 05:11 PM)
QUOTE (deep:cover @ Apr 11 2007, 04:48 PM)
One thing i noticed is that those people who say "I'm buying a PS3 so I can get the best experience from GTA4", it looks like you'll be wrong.

It says both versions will be near identical, except the 360 version will contain exclusive content...

Wrong.
Everyone admits that the playstation version will be better. For the fact that its got more power. So faster loading times, smoother gameplay.
Rumor goes, the 360 version is a scaled down version of the ps3 one.
360 used DVD, SA almost filled the limit of a dvd. So this game isnt going to be less then 10 gigs, is it now?

I see ps3 getting a full 20gb version. And i'm sure of better downloadable content.

The 360 uses HD DVD, these things can store 20 GB of memory, while the PS3 uses Blueray discs, which can hold 60GB/80GB of memory.

When the war starts beetween HD DVD and Blueray, HD DVD may come out on top because (Even though it has less memory) it costs a hell of alot cheaper.
It's happened before with video cassettes, VitaMax Vs. VHS. ViteMax, Better quality, VHS less quality but very cheap. Guess which came out on top? VHS....

Maybe this will be the same with the 360?

Magical Trevor - April 11, 2007 06:26 PM (GMT)
maybe not?

anyway i thought bluray disks hold 20/50GB? where the hell did you get 80 from?

deep:cover - April 11, 2007 06:31 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Vii @ Apr 11 2007, 05:11 PM)
QUOTE (deep:cover @ Apr 11 2007, 04:48 PM)
One thing i noticed is that those people who say "I'm buying a PS3 so I can get the best experience from GTA4", it looks like you'll be wrong.

It says both versions will be near identical, except the 360 version will contain exclusive content...

Wrong.
Everyone admits that the playstation version will be better. For the fact that its got more power. So faster loading times, smoother gameplay.
Rumor goes, the 360 version is a scaled down version of the ps3 one.
360 used DVD, SA almost filled the limit of a dvd. So this game isnt going to be less then 10 gigs, is it now?

I see ps3 getting a full 20gb version. And i'm sure of better downloadable content.

Dude, the game's going on both consoles, and it's being made together.
Game Informer got all that info straight up from Rockstar. If they say the titles will be near identical, then it will. Doesn't matter which one is more powerful.

Also, it says that the only loading time will be at the beginning, afterwards there's no more loading times.

Plus, you can only get exclusive downloable content if the company of the console signs a deal with Rockstar. Microsoft have already done so, but so far Sony haven't.
They're running out of time, and ever day that passes, there's less hop for Sony getting exclusive content.

And how can you say "I'm sure PS3 will have better downloable content". I'm sorry, but that's just pure ignorancy.

And how the fuck can the 360 version be a "scaled down" version of the PS3 version?
First of all, they started developing it on the 360 first (it did come out first after all), and it's most likely that alot of GTA4 content get's ported from the 360 version to the PS3, since they began developing for 360 earlier.
So, if anything the PS3 could be a slightly scaled down version of the 360 version for all we know.

Seriously, you're talking absolute bullshit.

Joshyboy - April 11, 2007 06:52 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Magical Trevor @ Apr 11 2007, 06:26 PM)
maybe not?

anyway i thought bluray disks hold 20/50GB? where the hell did you get 80 from?

Woops, I was thinking of those future disk's that can hold 80 GB.

In a few years a disk's coming out that can hold 1TB. Thats 100GB, or 1000GB, not completley sure.

And (Woohoo!) Wonder if a game's console is going to have those disks running inside it. Think about it, you could fit pac-man the game inside it 1 million times, maybe more XD

Vii - April 11, 2007 07:27 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Joshyboy @ Apr 11 2007, 06:13 PM)
QUOTE (Vii @ Apr 11 2007, 05:11 PM)
QUOTE (deep:cover @ Apr 11 2007, 04:48 PM)
One thing i noticed is that those people who say "I'm buying a PS3 so I can get the best experience from GTA4", it looks like you'll be wrong.

It says both versions will be near identical, except the 360 version will contain exclusive content...

Wrong.
Everyone admits that the playstation version will be better. For the fact that its got more power. So faster loading times, smoother gameplay.
Rumor goes, the 360 version is a scaled down version of the ps3 one.
360 used DVD, SA almost filled the limit of a dvd. So this game isnt going to be less then 10 gigs, is it now?

I see ps3 getting a full 20gb version. And i'm sure of better downloadable content.

The 360 uses HD DVD, these things can store 20 GB of memory, while the PS3 uses Blueray discs, which can hold 60GB/80GB of memory.

When the war starts beetween HD DVD and Blueray, HD DVD may come out on top because (Even though it has less memory) it costs a hell of alot cheaper.
It's happened before with video cassettes, VitaMax Vs. VHS. ViteMax, Better quality, VHS less quality but very cheap. Guess which came out on top? VHS....

Maybe this will be the same with the 360?

hehe..*cracks his fingers*.

Lets hit these one by one, shall we?
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The 360 uses HD DVD, these things can store 20 GB of memory, while the PS3 uses Blueray discs, which can hold 60GB/80GB of memory.

When the war starts beetween HD DVD and Blueray, HD DVD may come out on top because (Even though it has less memory) it costs a hell of alot cheaper.
It's happened before with video cassettes, VitaMax Vs. VHS. ViteMax, Better quality, VHS less quality but very cheap. Guess which came out on top? VHS....

Maybe this will be the same with the 360?

Is that so? Well maybe the 200 people that posted on QJ were wrong then. Maybe they have "special" xboxs. :rolleyes:

Loads of respected members, like "Macca" all said that the 360 used dvd.

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When the war starts beetween HD DVD and Blueray, HD DVD may come out on top because (Even though it has less memory) it costs a hell of alot cheaper

Wrong.
The "war" has started between HD dvd and Blu-ray, up to now. Blu-rays winning.
Do you know how much a bluray film costs? about £17 rrp. HD dvds are about £15
£2 difference? No one would pay 15 quid and not pay 2 quid extra for a better quality and more extras.
VHS won becuase it was out alot longer then Vitamax. So people had already gotten used to it.


Next.

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Dude, the game's going on both consoles, and it's being made together.
Game Informer got all that info straight up from Rockstar. If they say the titles will be near identical, then it will. Doesn't matter which one is more powerful.

Also, it says that the only loading time will be at the beginning, afterwards there's no more loading times.

Plus, you can only get exclusive downloable content if the company of the console signs a deal with Rockstar. Microsoft have already done so, but so far Sony haven't.
They're running out of time, and ever day that passes, there's less hop for Sony getting exclusive content.

And how can you say "I'm sure PS3 will have better downloable content". I'm sorry, but that's just pure ignorancy.

And how the fuck can the 360 version be a "scaled down" version of the PS3 version?
First of all, they started developing it on the 360 first (it did come out first after all), and it's most likely that alot of GTA4 content get's ported from the 360 version to the PS3, since they began developing for 360 earlier.
So, if anything the PS3 could be a slightly scaled down version of the 360 version for all we know.

Seriously, you're talking absolute bullshit.


Lets break this down, shall we?

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Game Informer got all that info straight up from Rockstar. If they say the titles will be near identical, then it will. Doesn't matter which one is more powerfu

Who says the games will be different? The fact that ones going to be on Blu-Ray and the other on DVD, straight away means that the "Begining Loading Screen" will load quicker. The textures will look better. And i'd doubt they'd need to compress the files. Remember the ps3 advert? "Not only is Blu-ray good at storing lots of data, its also great at finding things. Knowing exactly where everything is, before its even needed."
Now thats just the disk. I cba to move onto other things like the pad.

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Plus, you can only get exclusive downloable content if the company of the console signs a deal with Rockstar. Microsoft have already done so, but so far Sony haven't.
They're running out of time, and ever day that passes, there's less hop for Sony getting exclusive content.

Whats the Grand Theft Autos home console? Playstation. What has it always been on? Playstation.
Its because of Sony that Rockstar are where they are. Its because of Rockstar the Playstation are where they are.

You think they havnt already/will come to a mutual agreement? Of course they will.
Microsoft were probably just too erratic and wanted to quickly secure themselves a deal. Just incase sony did something to prevent them from doing it.

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it's most likely that alot of GTA4 content get's ported from the 360 version

Do programmers port something from a weaker console to a stronger one? No. In the exceptions that it does happen, does it work? No.
Take VCS for example. They ported that from the psp. Did it work? No.
Do ports like Prince of persia (from ps2 to psp) work? Yeh. Aslong as they can get the controls right.

Do you honestly think that all their attentions going to the weaker console?

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So, if anything the PS3 could be a slightly scaled down version of the 360 version for all we know.

Hah..ha..ha? :mellow:
Your not serious are you?

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Seriously, you're talking absolute bullshit.

Says the person who thinks the ps3 version will be a scaled down version of the 360 one.. <_<



God damn..how can you be mocked so badly, by someone your own age..?



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