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Title: Lord Fear
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Sarah Frost - July 14, 2005 09:25 PM (GMT)
Most powerful villain in the Sixth Dimension, original Evil Overlord, incompetent fool with musical hobbies.

Is he really as incompetent as we like to say? Or is it something to do with the mortal world?

How powerful is he? Is it just that he has minions? And what binds the minions to him, anyway?

Kilobyte calls him 'infected by the mortal world', but he's not the type most of us prefer to picture as emotional. Does he have feelings?

He was controlled by the program, and may not even know about that yet. Does that make him some sort of tragic hero?

He has one quality which renders him utterly unsympathetic: he's ugly. How much dislike of him is due to this? Would we like him better if he was more attractive?

Note the high voice and the musical interests. Another example of the effeminate villain?

He's older than Kilobyte (considerably so if we take the 352 figure). Is he likely to become the dominant Evil Overlord next season?

What sort of world events in the Sixth Dimension would have shaped what he became over 352 years?

Is he really a 'sorcerer'?

Rotgut - July 15, 2005 03:44 PM (GMT)
You might have gotten by now but I did my own story for how Lord Fear became a 352 year old skeleton:

Lord Wolfgang Fearofski was a famous organist who got a new organ but a mysterious lady told him it was cursed. Fearofski ignored her warning and played the organ. One day, the organ lid slammed down on his fingers and crushed them. Fearofski managed to remove the lid with help from Staff Head, only to discover he couldn't play his organ no longer. In his misery and hung himself from the organ. 300 years passed and Lord Fear discovered he had not died, but his body had rotted away into a skeleton. Staff Head was also still alive. The two then heard of the Lightning Knights who had the Amulet. Fear was driven insane by the thought of having the powerful Amulet, so he grew to hate the Lightning Knights, especially Ace Lightning, who gave him a permeant limp when a he blasted a chandelier on his leg.

Scarab Dynasty - July 15, 2005 04:12 PM (GMT)
That was a very cool sounding story, Rotgut, and I rather like the chandelier details.

fear has often came across as incompetent, but there problem is some of the mortal worlds affect to do with it - like Kilbyte said "he has been infected by the mortal realm" and none of the reasomably intelligent characters are the same as they most likely were in the game, with the exception of those two stupid to know the difference, of course :P

The ugliness is basically because he's a skeleton - and that's been a common device used in kids shows to represent something awful and evil. probably because skeletons symbolise detah and the darkness of what comes after you've shuffled off. There's also something innately disturbing about the awareness of something being a live when it really shouldn't be. Yes, ugly, no more so than a lot of other villians, and I can picture interpretations of him being quite different oif he actually had skin.

I rather hope he'll gain some competence against Kb , the last episode was rather hopeful of that and was quite a "see he can be competent if heputs his mind (metaphorically) to it/doesn't get distracted). it's be nice to see more competence from him certainly, and unlike KB fear understands mortal emotions and has a better grasp of the mortal realm, which could really be better utilised in his favour.

What's with the vocie anyway? Some kind of stereotype of the evil villian, I guess. I'm remidned of the play they actually sued in the show (closest they ever got to metas in canon if you ask me, excluding the mroal lessons they gave us at the end of every episode, the villian with the love of music.

I think Fear ejoys misuc because he can control it all through his own manipulation. And he really is rather proud of his "symphopny of fear", and music of coruse pulls at the emotions. In fact, I rather thing Fear has a better emotional grasp than I've ever acknowledged.

Sarah Frost - July 16, 2005 10:21 AM (GMT)
I think with skin he'd be a rather distinguished-looking older guy. With a grey ponytail. Am not sure why.

The voice and the music would be stereotypes of the effeminate (read: gay) villain, which is something I do find rather irritating. Pretty boy villains are all very well, extra points if they're snogging an equally pretty boy, but when it's a presumably heterosexual skeleton one must raise an eyebrow. (Then again, since we've established that gender is fairly immaterial when powers are concerned, maybe LI could've been an equally attractive young guy, not that they'd EVER have written it like that.)

I think Fear has a fair-to-middling chance of coming out on top of Villainous Conflict, considering that Kilobyte can fit a lot more easily into the minion trope than a physically weak skeleton. So here's hoping some of the cunning he's supposed to be famed for come into play! Of course, LI is One Dead Lady if he ever has control over her again...

Re emotions, I don't think he's capable of, say, love, love being an essentially unselfish emotion. The negative ones like rage, hate, and sadism are there, though, and I think he has a reasonable grasp on just what emotion does for people. And he's quite willing to acknowledge hatred as a reasonable emotion unlike Kilobyte might be. So that adds points in Villainous Competence.

Scarab Dynasty - July 16, 2005 05:22 PM (GMT)
Hm... don't go with the ponbytail... distinguished certainly comes to mind, though I'd never picture him as incredibly attractive. I have someone rather like snape in mind only... well, different. :huh:

I never thought of fear's voice = gay, to be honest. When they decided on Fear's voice my guess is that they were going for the creaky, disturbing... well, skeleton like voice, but I guess it didn't quite work out like that, though once again I think great that from what we've seen gender certainly doesn't matter (not amongst the CGI's anyway, it's a little more prevalent amongst the humans).

I think that Kilobyte is doing Fear a favour as he rather saw the need to shape up his act in the villaneous competence department in that last episode. He's scared of KB, but I'm sure he'll also rise to the threat of it in his own sneaky, underhand way. And where IS all that sneakiness I'd like to know? besides, Kb is so obviously a huge threat I'm pretty sure they'll all be going their hardest to get rid of him and unlike fear, I doubt Ace would stab fear in the back afterwards. So one way or another fear is gonna be head honco again. That is if KB doesn't destroy him.

I think he's caoable of love, I just don't think he'd take it seriously. he certainly seemed rather upset about Li, though that may have been more about the betrayal, he did seem rather emotionally effected by it. I think though that he's more the time to brush love off and think he's got better things to do with his time (what those better things are, I have no clue :P.)

Yup, he does get emotions and the effects they can have and can probably use them in his favour pretty efficently. Though love is something he clearly udnerestimates. Standard evil villian in the moral-of-the-story-is-love complex.




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