I've been doing some research, using all of the resources I generally have and have created a storyline which I think fits the whole franchise.

Notes Before Known Events
*Rotgut born and died.
*Lord Fear born over 300 years ago.
*Random Virus born.
*Googler born.
*Ace born.
*Lady Illusion born (guess in age).
*Anvil born (guess in age).
*Sparx born (guess in age).
*Dirty Rat born (guess in age).
*Pigface born.
*Founding of the Lightning Knights.
*Ace imprisoned Googler in White-Hot Oblivion.

Known Events
It all began when Zoar gave the Amulet to the Lightning Knights, but Lord Fear heard he had handed it over, and so he attacked the Thunder Tower and made off with the Amulet. Ace blasted the Amulet and destroyed it. Thus, Ace travelled to the Carnival of Doom, and the events of the video game occured. Months later, Lady Illusion freed Lord Fear and his gang and they stole the Amulet yet again. This time, there was a mighty battle between Ace and the villains, but the Amulet broke again. This time, the Amulet opened a portal to Earth, and Lord Fear, Lady Illusion, Anvil, Pigface, Dirty Rat and Ace fell inside, and thus, the series began!

Hmm… a 6D=RW theory timeline. Good idea, Rotgut, and we need it. We could do with some more figures here, though. Your events seem solid.

We have no saying rotgut “died” before fear – given his state of decomposition I’d say he was far closer to Ace when (and if – we can’t be certain that zombies/the walking dead aren’t just a genetically maladjusted version of a being created for the 6D using broken down data.) he “died” And became a zombie and thus, began to rot.

And can we get some statistics beyond Lord Fears? I have Random played at roughly forty, at the latest, according to his stats (can someone correct that for me if it’s wrong?) Ace’s “Kryllian cycles” (obviously the lightning knight form of a year, which has been approximated as roughly half a human year) levels out at about 32 human years, if I recall rightly. (he’s that old? :blink: looks young for his age…) Sparx is theorised as much younger, though to make many theories plausible, we have to say she’s at least in her late teens – I’d theorise nineteen or just older, certainly, no older than twenty five – the guidebook wouldn’t say for her.)

I also notice you made Lady Illusion younger than Ace… why is this ALWAYS the trend in female characters? They’re always made out younger than the males (well, with the exception of the original Robin and Batgirl, that I know of) there’s no saying she’s not the same age, or older. She certainly seems less naïve.

I see you’re going with the theory that ace came before the knights were founded – but I really don’t see how. The founder of the Lightning Knights, seemingly may be a character called “Zoar” and looking at it logically, I have to say it’s more likely the knights were well established LONG before ace came around (though of course in canon 6D = just a game theory, it came about to serve the purpose of being Ace’s profession, but then, everything in that timeline started at the same “time”, really)

The minions are also a dodgy spot. It’s difficult to tell from their intelligence and appearance how young they are – Pigface, despite his childish behaviour, could be as old as the hills for all we can tell.

I'm betting too that Rotgut, no matter how he was made, is "younger" than Fear; he's certainly a lot less decomposed. He looks like he 'died' at, oh, twenty-something perhaps, and if he's like he is now if he had been dead for longer than give or take five years no doubt he would be even more decayed. Or else he was created as he is now (by Lord Fear, perhaps?) and frozen at that particular state of decomposition.

I'm pretty sure Lady Illusion was also imprisoned in the Sixth Dimension; in ep six she refers to it as though she was there too.

In real-world theorising, I refuse to accept Ace as 32: he hasn't had thirty-two years of experience, and it really does show. My opinion of the humanoid age order runs Kilobyte, Random, Ace, LI, and then Sparx (who really does look like she could still be in her teens). I imagine LI as younger than Ace not because of the stereotype (I hope) but because of how she strikes me on-screen: she seems to me like someone trying to be older than she is and failing, going for the image of older-mature-seductress and not being particularly good at it. Ace lacks in romantic experience, but it's still she who takes the most risks for her feelings, and so she strikes me as the younger of the two of them, though I doubt it's by much and there's no solid reason why she should be younger/older. She's certainly more experienced than Ace, but using the angst device of sexual abuse in her past would make choosing Fear that much plausible for her. And judging by how much Ace's saving her seemed to impress her and her (non?) reaction to Fear hurting her, I doubt her past was all that pleasant.

The minions are as 'immortal' as Lord Fear, merging into objects whenever wounded and bound to him; I suspect most of them are around his age, converted animals he chose as his devoted goon squad.

I agree that the Lightning Knights were probably founded well before Ace; maybe they were even founded by an enemy of Lord Fear's during his lifetime, which might help explain why Fear chose his partiuclar codename. In Maroc the Mighty (a comic I came across as a kid involving a Baron Grimm and a blond hero with an armlet of super-strength aided by a 'normal' kid), the Armlet of Zar was made by the devotees of an Asian sun god (Maroc had been on the Crusades).

To Scarab, it says in the book Pigface is mearly 12 year old. How old is Anvil than?

Beats me, they're both entirely different species so there's no saying that what one's age is has any reflection on the others. For anvil, twelve might be the equivalent of twenty. Most HUMAN twelve year olds are smarter than pigface.

According to the guidebook 'Anvil can't count'... so his age isn't recorded. :rolleyes:

Random is 35; his machine bits being 6 years old... so we know he got those relatively recently, and he hasn't always had them. (Of course, always having them would present quite a few problems, such as growing out of them, which as well as requireing replacements, I suspect could be painful :blink: ).

I don't think 32 is too inaccurate an age for Ace. When I first say the ad, I thought Ace looked old for a superhero. :lol: Personality-wise, he does come across as more innocent, but I think that's mostly from being stuck in a game, and realistically, they all aren't older than about 2 years at the most. So, those ages work physically for me, though I suspect they would've been programmed to be somewhat around the maturity levels of their ages... though I suspect the average maturaty/intelligence level for whatever Anvil is is lower than the humanoids. :)

Ace is a bit like Impulse (speedster, DC comicsa, runs really fast) when you think about it - he'ss had to insert roughly half a lfietimes worth of elarning into a short space of time, because his behaviour is quite innocent and childlike, yet he knows what he's doing... kinda reminds me of a senior boyscout. In fact, I'm amazed fear hasn't called him that before.

...OT... you think the Knigths has a LK equivalent of the scouts? The Lightning Cadet Juniors or something? :P

Yeah, Ace is like that. :D All the characters are limited to experiences drawn from cliche plus whatever time they've spent on Earth, and further on the subject of Impulse, it's interesting that Sparx has clocked up the fewest hours on Earth of almost all the characters.

I'm sure they have Lightning Cadets, but I'm not so sure about Scout-equivalent. :P

Yes now that you mention it, she really does have a lot more in common with a speedster than Ace, which doesn't half stir ideas. She acts young because she IS a kid. She's been brought up in a world where death is less than permenant and the bad guys always lose. There was never a reset button like in Impulse's universe, but she still lived in a dangerless world and whereas Ace has certain safety precautions from the human world (and maybe even preprogrammed) she might not have them. It would explain a few things.

She's not quite a kid, but she's still young enough and/or hasn't experienced enough to have been forced to give up on the recklessness. Still something of an innocent. That particular storyline certainly works in a gameverse background, and in a 6DRW background could simply be twisted into relative youth and innocence.

*nods* Plus the roleplay gives a rather good diea of her potential development.

She's a good character to try to "turn evil" with respect to character development; that bravery and impulse and craving action are pretty easy to turn down a wrong or dangerous path. And yet, scrubbing away at her flaws would make her a canon Sue, though that's certainly not to say that no development for her going the other way should be required.

This is true, and it sticks Sparx into an annoying position.

Personally, I have a certain ammount of doubt in my mind when it comes to canon characters being Sues, becuse obviously they're there to do what they were MEANT to do. Then again, having been exposed to Kat Adams and Nausicaa, I have to say my god, there should be limits on how much a canon character is made out to be "worth".

Sparx is in an irkesome position and actually, I wouldn't see her being beyond "growing out of" her current attitude rather that slipping further iNTO it in a kind of evil mode. (yes, I know, another canon sue) but she sort of "grew up" and "grew out of" (or so she claimed) the childish role of batgirl (i think she was full of it and I didn't like this new babs anymore than the old animated one, but there you go... at least it was a character development option.)